http://amfreenet.com/2009/02/michigans-shame/ Real Americans - Common Sense for Freedom Sun, 05 Feb 2012 15:39:47 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= http://amfreenet.com/2009/02/michigans-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-322 Nik Mon, 09 Feb 2009 17:25:32 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/2009/02/michigans-shame/#comment-322 We aren't "losing" in Afghanistan by any measure. Have we "won", no. Losing? Hardly. I also think DeBorchgrave's "mission impossible" statement is unsupported. Can we "win" is a question worth debating. Even MORE important is the "should we" pursue such a win. To what benefit 70 billion of imitation treasure per year? So you bring legitimate questions to the table. Losing? Nope. Iraq is a win, no matter how you slice it. Shouldn't have happened but a win nonetheless. We aren’t “losing” in Afghanistan by any measure. Have we “won”, no. Losing? Hardly. I also think DeBorchgrave’s “mission impossible” statement is unsupported. Can we “win” is a question worth debating. Even MORE important is the “should we” pursue such a win. To what benefit 70 billion of imitation treasure per year? So you bring legitimate questions to the table. Losing? Nope.
Iraq is a win, no matter how you slice it. Shouldn’t have happened but a win nonetheless.

]]> http://amfreenet.com/2009/02/michigans-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-318 ssgconway Fri, 06 Feb 2009 23:09:54 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/2009/02/michigans-shame/#comment-318 We're losing in Afghanistan. That is undeniable. We're only staying afloat in Iraq because of the surge, which is unsustainable, given our current military infrastructure. Military suicides topped combat deaths this month. Our military is worn out. Iraq is on life support; Afghanistan is a slow-mo disaster, with each Predator strike recruiting the survivors for the Taliban and Al Queda. When, not if, they get Pakistan, we'll be cut off, like Xenopohon, and we'll have less opportunity than he did to cut our way out. Hollow empires fall when reality catches up with their reputations. Think Adrianople. Think Manzikert. I don't want to live to see it, but it's staring us in the face. Arnaud De Bourchgrave is ultra-conservative; here he is on the subject: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/05/discordant-wavelengths/ We’re losing in Afghanistan. That is undeniable. We’re only staying afloat in Iraq because of the surge, which is unsustainable, given our current military infrastructure. Military suicides topped combat deaths this month. Our military is worn out. Iraq is on life support; Afghanistan is a slow-mo disaster, with each Predator strike recruiting the survivors for the Taliban and Al Queda. When, not if, they get Pakistan, we’ll be cut off, like Xenopohon, and we’ll have less opportunity than he did to cut our way out. Hollow empires fall when reality catches up with their reputations. Think Adrianople. Think Manzikert. I don’t want to live to see it, but it’s staring us in the face.
Arnaud De Bourchgrave is ultra-conservative; here he is on the subject:
http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2009/feb/05/discordant-wavelengths/

]]> http://amfreenet.com/2009/02/michigans-shame/comment-page-1/#comment-314 Nik Fri, 06 Feb 2009 14:58:38 +0000 http://amfreenet.com/2009/02/michigans-shame/#comment-314 Which 2 wars are we "losing" exactly? 1 justified and 1 unjustified intervention. 1 a clear win and 1 still incomplete. Not being smart in doing the Iraq thing doesn't make it a loss so I don't think "losing" is the most accurate portrayal. Which 2 wars are we “losing” exactly? 1 justified and 1 unjustified intervention. 1 a clear win and 1 still incomplete. Not being smart in doing the Iraq thing doesn’t make it a loss so I don’t think “losing” is the most accurate portrayal.

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